Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing

The attitude toward cannabis has shifted: 64% of Americans support the legalization of marijuana, 93% support medical consumption, and the drug is legal in nine states plus Washington, DC. By 2028, the cannabis space is projected to be a $60B industry. So, what does that mean for us as real estate investors? How can we take advantage of the need for property to grow, manufacture and sell cannabis products?

Leslie Plettner is the director of BaseCanna, a team of cannabis, legal, finance and real estate experts who provide the funding, infrastructure and property for cannabis entrepreneurs. Leslie is a long-time entrepreneur with extensive experience in real estate. She has developed and managed more than 500 units, including a mix of warehouse, multifamily and retail properties. Three years ago, Leslie anticipated the emergence of the cannabis industry and recognized its need for cannabis-friendly landlords, and the idea for BaseCanna was born.

Today, Leslie joins me to describe BaseCanna’s work in developing an ecosystem of cannabis operators and the market opportunity in the space for real estate developers. She shares the risks of cannabis real estate, both perceived and real, and explains how BaseCanna makes decisions around who to work with. Listen in for Leslie’s insight on the appreciation of a property once it’s licensed for cannabis and learn why now is the right time to get into cannabis real estate!

Key Takeaways

The mission of BaseCanna

  • Anchor development of cannabis ecosystem with real estate
  • Support operator-members with compliance, legal issues, accounting & insurance

Leslie’s background as an entrepreneur

  • Designed, transformed underperforming schools
  • Shift to real estate when started family

BaseCanna’s current work

  • Creating vertically integrated ecosystem (seed to sale)
  • Vet municipalities, real estate and operators

The market opportunity in cannabis real estate

  • Fastest growing since broadband internet
  • Huge expansion in therapeutic consumption
  • Shift in attitude (93% support medical use)

The myths around owning cannabis real estate

  • Pothead tenants, criminal activity
  • Civil asset forfeiture (landlords protected)

The real risks around owning cannabis real estate

  • Must be in municipality regulated for cannabis
  • Ensure tenant has license, pays taxes
  • Property must be zoned for cannabis
  • Be careful of green rush illusion
  • OSHA fines, federal prohibition

How BaseCanna makes decisions around who to work with

  • Right license for right product in right market
  • Pay attention to overall market trends (i.e.: demand for manufactured products)

The appreciation on a property once it’s licensed for cannabis

  • BaseCanna paid $1.8M for two warehouses
  • Offers for $4.5M once repositioned

The permitting process for cannabis real estate

  • Very involved, 200-page applications (SOP, demo capacity)
  • Lawyers charge $40K to $75K to guide through process

Leslie’s advice on having an exit strategy

  • First opportunity = create operational campus
  • Immediate exit available once licensing in place

Leslie’s insight on getting in the cannabis game now

  • Institutional money will come in with end of federal prohibition
  • Real estate premiums will fall as more municipalities regulate

Connect with Leslie

BaseCanna

Resources

UCLA Study on Crime & Dispensaries

MAUCRSA

The Rohrabacher-Blumenauer Amendment

Michael’s Products

The Ultimate Guide to Apartment Building Investing

Michael’s Syndicated Deal Analyzer

Michael’s Deal Maker Mastermind

Financial Freedom Summit

Deal Desk

Deal Maker LIVE

Michael’s Coaching Program

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Anna Simpson’s philosophy is that you don’t make money in your comfort zone. Once she has achieved a goal, Anna finds a way to push her limits and look forward to the next. And when things start to get difficult, that’s when Ana knows she needs to keep digging: She’s getting closer to the gold.

Anna is a full-time accredited multifamily investor and deal sponsor with experience in property valuation, acquisition, rehabilitation, leasing and asset management. She got her start investing in single family buy and holds before making the decision to transition to multifamily as a passive investor. Anna personally invested in 1,300 multifamily units as an equity partner and key principal before she was ready for the next challenge of becoming a managing partner. Today, Anna has completed two multifamily deals: a 70-unit syndication and a 76-unit 1031 exchange.

Today, Anna sits down with me to share her decision to work ON the business rather than IN it by making the shift to multifamily. She explains how she leveraged her role as a passive investor to learn the fundamentals of syndication and the key challenge she faced in landing her first deal as managing partner. Anna offers insight around the value of persistence and breaking big goals down into smaller chunks. Listen in for Anna’s advice on pushing beyond your perceived limits and learn why she believes that while knowledge is important, true power lies in consistent ACTION.

Key Takeaways

How Anna got involved with real estate

  • Friends active in single family group
  • ‘Success breeds success’

Anna’s initial investment strategy

  • Single family buy and hold rentals
  • Successful but difficult to scale

Anna’s shift to multifamily

  • Working on New Year’s Eve
  • Made decision to work ON vs. IN
  • Got involved as passive investor

What Ana learned as a passive investor

  • How to communicate with vendors, investors
  • How to supervise rehab
  • How to design, implement plan

Anna’s first multifamily deal

  • Found off-market through relationships
  • Syndicated 70-unit deal (23 passive investors)
  • $4M purchase price, $1.4M raise in one day

Anna’s approach to goal-setting

  • Identify where you are and where you want to be
  • Break down into smaller goals (e.g.: one LOI/week)
  • Work backwards and assess regularly

Anna’s key challenge in landing her first multifamily deal

  • Overcame lack of track record with team
  • Experience as investor in 1,300 doors

How the Law of the First Deal impacted Anna

  • Second deal under contract 2 months after first
  • Off-market deal through broker

Anna’s insight on the value of persistence

  • Difficult times mean you’re getting closer
  • Accept setbacks as part of journey
  • Move forward to build reputation, respect

What Anna would do differently given the opportunity

  • Start earlier with apartments
  • ‘You don’t know what you don’t know’

Anna’s advice for aspiring real estate investors

  • Learn through podcasts, groups, etc.
  • Treat as business not hobby
  • Consistent ACTION = POWER
  • Work on mindset constantly
  • Leverage passion on down days

How Anna navigates the down days

  • Surround with supportive, optimistic people

Connect with Anna

Anna’s Website

Resources

Rich Dad Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not by Robert T. Kiyosaki

Michael’s Deal Maker Mastermind

Deal Desk

Deal Maker LIVE

Michael’s Coaching Program

Michael’s Products

Michael’s Syndicated Deal Analyzer

Michael’s Deal Maker Mastermind

Financial Freedom Summit

Partner with Michael

Invest with Michael

Michael’s Course

Free eBook: The Secret to Raising Money to Buy Your First Apartment Building

Review the Podcast on iTunes

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