Apartment Building Investing with Michael Blank Podcast

While syndication is the most popular way to raise money to fund a multifamily deal, it is not the only option. A resourceful real estate investor can leverage a number of other creative possibilities. Jake Stenziano and Gino Barbaro have built an impressive portfolio without syndicating a single deal, but now they are adding the strategy to their repertoire. What drove them to add ‘investor relations’ to their skill set? In what situation might a different approach, like owner financing, be appropriate? What are the pros and cons of syndication?

Jake and Gino are the co-founders of Jake & Gino, LLC, an educational platform that leverages their expertise in multifamily real estate to help others attain financial freedom by way of apartment building investing. A few short years ago, Jake and Gino were a pizza guy and a drug rep; today, they own 900-plus multifamily units. They share their creative approach on the Wheelbarrow Profits Podcast, and they are the co-authors of the Amazon bestseller, Wheelbarrow Profits: How to Create Passive Income, Build Wealth, and Take Control of Your Destiny Through Multifamily Real Estate Investing.

Today, Jake and Gino join me to explain how they were able to build a portfolio without syndication, discussing the benefits of using community bankers and partnering with high-net-worth individuals. They share the case study of a 281-unit owner-financing deal and describe how good broker relationships can reveal creative financing opportunities. Jake and Gino also address the differences between community bank and agency debt and the value in understanding the story behind every deal. Listen in for insight around why Jake and Gino are adding syndication to their list of options and learn the advantages—and the drawbacks—of syndicating a multifamily deal!

Key Takeaways

The advantage of using community bankers

  • Build in rehab budget
  • Much less cash down (15-20%)

How to address the down payment

  • Partner with high-net-worth individual
  • Do day-to-day operations for equity

Jake & Gino’s owner-financed 281-unit deal

  • No money in, walk away with $150K
  • Facilitated by track record

The right conditions for owner financing

  • Understand seller’s motivation
  • Every deal has own story

Why Jake & Gino are syndicating now

  • Vision to scale requires capital injection
  • Comfortable speaking to investors

The disadvantages of syndication

  • Less equity (10% vs. 30%)
  • More work on front-end
  • Meet projections vs. ‘do right thing’
  • Investors expect liquidity event in year five

The difference between community bank and agency debt

  • ‘Ease of doing business’ with community bank
  • Community bank requires personal guarantee
  • Agency debt = nonrecourse, low interest rates

What surprised Jake & Gino about syndication

  • Timeline once LOI signed
  • Can’t accept $ until docs in place

How Jake & Gino raised money so quickly

  • Position as experts in space
  • Live events (e.g.: investor dinner, meetup)

What’s next for Jake & Gino

  • Continue to look for big deals
  • Grow education platform (book in 2019)

Connect with Jake & Gino

Jake & Gino’s Website

Wheelbarrow Profits Podcast

Jake & Gino on Facebook

Jake & Gino on Instagram

Email gino@jakeandgino.com

Resources

Wheelbarrow Profits: How to Create Passive Income, Build Wealth, and Take Control of Your Destiny Through Multifamily Real Estate Investing by Jake Stenziano and Gino Barbaro

Gino on Apartment Building Investing EP052

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Michael’s Website

Michael’s Live Training Webinars

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

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Direct download: ABI_138.mp3
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“When you chase money, money runs. When you’re focused on mission, you attract money.”

To reach the highest levels of success in real estate, it’s important to have your mind—and heart—in the right place. If your WHY is about more than just you, if your mission has meaning, business will come to you. So, what’s driving you?

Kent Clothier is the founder and CEO of Real Estate Worldwide, a real estate software and education platform that offers aspiring investors a curriculum of proven systems and technology as well as national data on real estate cash buyers and private lenders. A serial entrepreneur and digital marketing expert, he also owns and operates the multimillion-dollar brands Real Market Experts, 1-800-SELL-NOW FREE, Find Cash Buyers NOW and Find Private Lenders NOW.

Today, Kent joins me to explain how his definition of success has shifted from a focus on money to a focus on impact. He offers insight on designing a meaningful mission and going all-in to reach your goals—without sacrificing your quality of life. Kent describes how he has created a life of balance, sharing the massive lessons learned from losing everything after 13 years of running his first business. Listen in for Kent’s advice on becoming a student of scale and learn the value of people, processes and technology in building a fulfilling real estate business that complements your personal life!

Key Takeaways

Kent’s background in real estate

  • Started as wholesaler in 2002
  • Turnkey operation (completed 5K flips to date)
  • Runs software, education business (50K students)

How Kent’s definition of success has changed

  • Money was driving factor 10 years ago
  • Massive windfall as shift in focus to mission

What inspired Kent to focus on mission

  • Uncle/mentor passed away at 61
  • Standing for something attracts people

Kent’s insight on the necessity of going all-in

  • Capable of much when back against wall
  • Success connected to meaningful mission

Kent’s take on the difference between failure and success

  • NEVER about how much you know
  • Failing is inevitable but doesn’t define you
  • ‘I will simply never quit’

How Kent connects with his WHY every day

  • Will somebody say I mattered?
  • ‘This is where my competition will quit’

How Kent creates a life of balance

  • High quality of life (e.g.: dream house on ocean)
  • Monthly vacation, walk daughters to school
  • In business of ‘creating moments’

Kent’s massive lesson around balance

  • Sacrificed family, personal life in first business
  • Walked away from company out of arrogance
  • Tried to pirate employees, customers
  • Got sued and lost everything
  • Got serious about systems with new business

Kent’s advice around scaling your business

  • Good people, systems around you
  • Document processes as build team
  • ‘Elegance in simplicity’

Kent’s Big Hairy Audacious Goal

  • Launch new business (Cribs)
  • Go toe-to-toe with Opendoor

Connect with Kent

Kent’s Website

Kent on Facebook

Kent on Instagram

Resources

Scaling Up: How a Few Companies Make It … and Why the Rest Don’t by Verne Harnish

Damion Lupo on Apartment Building Investing EP079

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Michael’s Live Training Webinars

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Direct download: ABI_137_v2.mp3
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