Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing

In a perfect world, honest real estate investors would never have to deal with frivolous lawsuits. But we live in the real world where being sued is a very real possibility. So, how do you protect yourself so that an angry tenant cannot get to your personal assets? What kinds of insurance do you need to protect your real estate assets from an ‘outside attack’? And where should you set up a holding company to take advantage of the strongest possible asset protection laws?

Garrett Sutton is a corporate attorney, asset protection expert and bestselling author with 30-plus years of experience supporting entrepreneurs and real estate investors. He serves as Rich Dad Advisor and asset protection attorney for Robert Kiyosaki and founder of Corporate Direct, a firm dedicated to supporting clients in protecting their assets, maintaining their privacy and advancing their financial goals. He has sold more than 850,000 books, including the invaluable Loopholes of Real Estate and Start Your Own Corporation.

Today, Garrett joins me to explain the ins and outs of asset protection. He discusses how the LLC protects your personal assets, why it’s important to set up an LLC from Day One, and how insurance serves as your first line of defense. Garrett offers insight around entity structure, speaking to the value of setting up a Wyoming holding company with charging order protection. Listen in to understand the concept of equity stripping to further protect your real estate assets—and learn to avoid personal liability by following the four corporate formalities!

Key Takeaways

Why it’s important to set up an LLC from Day One

  • Too late once sued
  • Plaintiff can reach all personal assets

How the LLC protects you as an individual

  • Courts respect lease in name of LLC
  • Attorney will work to get name off suit

The role of insurance in providing asset protection

  • Serves as first line of defense
  • LLC provides second line of defense

Why Garrett recommends an umbrella policy

  • Extra coverage for home + auto
  • Protects against outside attack (i.e.: car wreck victim)

How to set up the best possible entity structure

  • LLC in state property located
  • Several LLCs under Wyoming holding company
  • WY = strongest asset protection laws, privacy

The value of a charging order protection

  • Doesn’t allow forced sale of assets
  • Victim must wait for distributions

The 4 corporate formalities

  1. Annual meeting w/ minutes
  2. Registered agent in state
  3. Separate tax return
  4. Separate bank account

The consequences of failing to follow corporate formalities

  • Personally liable in any suit
  • ‘Veil pierced’ 50% of time

How Corporate Direct can retroactively fix compliance issues

  • Operating agreement, minutes + membership certificates
  • Transfer ownership from individual to WY LLC

The concept of equity stripping

  • Leverage debt as form of asset protection
  • WY LLC provides credit, receives first deed of trust

How to notify your insurance company re: title transfer

  • Use grant deed, inform of transfer to LLC
  • Add LLC as additionally insured (avoid higher premium)

Connect with Garrett

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In a climate where good deals are hard to find, off-market opportunities are key for multifamily investors. But how do you find property owners who might be willing to sell? And once you’ve tracked them down, how do you leverage marketing strategies to get their attention—and inspire them to pick up the phone and call YOU?

Cory Boatright and Sean Terry are experienced single-family wholesalers in the Oklahoma City and Phoenix markets, respectively. Together, the pair stumbled into a multifamily flip that proved challenging. And though they would never do it again, Cory and Sean earned a multiple six-figure profit on the deal. Now, they are pursuing multifamily buy-and-hold as a strategy through Investing Capital Group, a firm focused on finding off-market properties for its capital partners.

Today, Cory and Sean join me to explain how they got involved in a multifamily wholesale deal, discussing what they did right as well as the extreme adversity they faced in route to closing. They share their process for finding off-market deals, offering insight around the resources available for pulling lists of potential sellers and collecting their contact information. Listen in for advice on handling an influx of incoming calls and learn how Cory and Sean leverage unique marketing strategies to earn a 100% direct mail open rate!

Key Takeaways

Cory & Sean’s real estate resumes

  • Cory = wholesaler in OKC since 2013
  • Sean = 15 years as wholesaler in Phoenix

How Cory & Sean stumbled into a multifamily deal

  • Lead on property in AZ, tracked down owner
  • Property under contract direct to seller

What Cory & Sean did right in their multifamily flip

  • Built in extra time (60-day due diligence)
  • Built in extension for $50K

Cory & Sean’s approach to finding a buyer

  • Use ListSource to find potential buyers
  • Send marketing packet via FedEx (delivery notification)

The challenges Cory & Sean faced in route to closing

  • Buyer stalled to postpone nonrefundable date
  • Ramifications of failing to disclose reduction in price

Why the multifamily flip was successful despite the challenges

  • Multiple six-figure profit
  • Learned do’s and don’ts

Cory & Sean’s process for finding off-market deals

  • Pull data from ListSource to find sellers
  • Use Skip Trace Lists for contact info (20¢/record)
  • Cold call, direct mail and target on Facebook

How to handle the influx of incoming calls

  • Hire answering service like PATLive
  • Hire in-house or local staff (build relationships)

Why you can spend more on direct mail for multifamily

  • Fewer leads in particular area
  • Critical to get attention of decision-maker
  • FedEx with signature request = 100% open rate

Connect with Cory & Sean

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Category:Commercial Real Estate -- posted at: 9:27pm EST

Imagine having the financial security to do what you love, to pursue work that brings you joy—even if that work happens to be in an unpredictable industry. Mark Hentemann began his career in entertainment as a starving artist in New York City, often wondering how he would cover rent. Now, he leverages the cashflow from real estate investments to spend his days coming up with jokes in the writer’s room, without the stress of financial instability should his show get cancelled.

Mark Hentemann is a writer, voice actor and producer, working on shows like Family Guy, Bordertown and The Late Show with David Letterman. He is a two-time Primetime Emmy award-nominee for Outstanding Animated Program and Outstanding Comedy Series. In addition, Mark is an avid real estate investor, cofounding the multifamily investment company Quantum Capital, a firm focused on value-add assets in centrally located, growing neighborhoods of major metropolitan areas. To date, he has a portfolio of 185 units and earns $1M in passive income.

Today, Mark joins me to explain how a desire for financial security led him to invest in a duplex soon after his move to LA. He describes the moment when he finally understood the power of real estate and speaks to the advantages of house hacking as strategy to get started. Mark also shares his belief in economies of scale, discussing how he finds deals that make sense in Los Angeles. Listen in to understand why Mark is getting into syndication and learn how you can follow in his footsteps, leveraging multifamily real estate investment to pursue the work you love!

Key Takeaways

How Mark got involved in real estate

  • Starving artist in NYC, needed financial security
  • Move to LA, invest Family Guy income in duplex

Mark’s first real estate deal

  • Duplex ‘rough around edges’ in improving area
  • Listed at $380, won bidding war for $435K
  • Sold in 2005 after remodel for $1.27M

When Mark realized the power of real estate

  • Refi on duplex reduced interest from 7½% to 4¾%
  • Rent covered mortgage, insurance, taxes + utilities

The advantages of house hacking

  • Provides hedge against economic volatility
  • Add value to force appreciation

Mark’s belief in economies of scale

  • Realized benefit of larger multifamily properties
  • Found and purchased 6- and 14-unit buildings

How real estate impacts Mark’s quality of life

  • Takes financial strain out of equation
  • Write for fun (without stress of economic instability)

Mark’s perfect day

  • Write jokes and laugh during day
  • Network and look for properties

How Mark finds deals in the LA market

  • Chronic undersupply of B-class multifamily
  • Look for 40-year-old buildings in up-and-coming areas
  • Focus on low cost per ft2 (price comparable to land)

Mark’s experience with syndication

  • Motivated seller with 3 buildings ($10M deal)
  • Committed, then scrambled to find investors

Mark’s advice to aspiring multifamily investors

  • Take advantage of house hacking
  • Find 2- to 4-unit value-add in area on rise

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Category:Commercial Real Estate -- posted at: 8:38pm EST

“I want to see the world. I want to experience life because I almost lost mine.”

What if something happened and you could no longer work? How would you and your family survive? AJ Osborne found himself in that precarious position 18 months ago, but because he had sustainable passive income from real estate investing, he was able to focus on healing and continue to support his family as he recovered. Real estate saved his financial life.

AJ had been leading a busy life, running his state’s largest brokerage firm as well as a real estate company when he fell ill with a disease called Guillain-Barré. It left AJ completely paralyzed and comatose, and he spent several months on life support. Since then, he has had to relearn how to walk, use his arms and communicate. Fortunately, his 1M ft2 self-storage portfolio allowed AJ to focus on healing while his passive income continued to grow. The experience inspired him to create Cash Flow 2 Freedom, a platform where AJ teaches others how to generate cashflow and achieve financial freedom.

Today, AJ joins me to share the story of his battle with Guillon-Barré, explaining how the experience changed his priorities and how the passive income from his real estate portfolio sustained his family through the ordeal. He discusses what motivated him to pursue real estate investing in the first place and shares his approach to buying and managing self-storage facilities. Listen in for AJ’s insight on the difference between being rich and wealthy—and learn how to leverage real estate investing to achieve the kind of financial freedom that can save your life!

Key Takeaways

AJ’s devastating health crisis

  • Paralyzed and comatose, months on life support
  • Guillain-Barré syndrome rendered helpless

How the experience changed AJ

  • Changes outlook on what’s important
  • Reprioritize life (family moves to top)

What became most important to AJ

  • Time with children
  • Basic functions (e.g.: walk on own)

How AJ’s real estate portfolio facilitated his recovery

  • Bought family time and freedom
  • Paid bills while he focused on getting better

What might have happened without real estate

  • Disability income was 25% of previous salary
  • Would have had to downsize, wife take job

How AJ got into commercial real estate

  • Frustrated by fluctuation in consulting business
  • Needed strategy to compound returns

AJ’s distinction between rich and wealthy

  • Wealthy own assets and revenue coming in
  • Rich have high income but owned by source

AJ’s approach to investing in self-storage

  • Business rather than real estate asset
  • Turn around by dialing up value and income

How AJ turned around a state-owned facility

  • Bought at auction for $3.8M
  • Eliminated 30% of tenants by doubling price
  • Sold products, focused on customer service
  • Doubled income in 6 months, worth $9M

How AJ manages his self-storage facilities

  • Hire and train rock star management team
  • Built out policies and procedures over time

The differences among small, medium and large facilities

  • Expenses similar regardless of size
  • Sweet spot between 60K and 150K ft2

What inspired AJ to start Cash Flow 2 Freedom

  • Real estate saved family’s financial life
  • Help others gain freedom with passive income

AJ’s advice for aspiring real estate investors

  • Learn from mistakes
  • Get to state of financial freedom on own

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Category:Commercial Real Estate -- posted at: 12:05pm EST

As a multifamily syndicator, one of your most important responsibilities lies in building long-term trust with investors. And when you are dealing with a handful of high-net-worth individuals, it is fairly easy to keep track of who has committed to a deal, signed the appropriate documents and wired their money. As you scale your real estate business, however, it becomes increasingly challenging to communicate consistently and manage larger and larger numbers of investors. But it can be done by automating your workflow process.

Josiah Mann is the founder and CEO of Investor Deal Room, a modern, white-label investor management platform that supports real estate syndicators in raising capital and streamlining their back office through automation. Businesses using the Investor Deal Room software have raised over $40M in private capital and represent nearly $500M in assets under management.

Today, Josiah joins me to walk us through the process of onboarding multifamily investors. He explains how to build your database by way of content marketing and create a lead magnet that addresses investor pain points. Josiah describes the step-by-step process of tracking leads through closing and shares best practices for communicating with investors via quarterly reports and individual statements. Listen in to understand the value of automating investor relations as you scale your business and learn how Investor Deal Room can help you build long-term trust with investors!

Key Takeaways

Josiah’s insight on marketing to investors

  • Contact form on website + email newsletter
  • Content marketing w/ CTA to build database

How to design free resources for investors

  • Think from their perspective
  • Poll to find out pain points

The process of tracking investors through closing

  1. Investor marketing packet (e.g.: webinar, email)
  2. Create spreadsheet to track leads, commitments
  3. Subscription documents + wiring instructions
  4. Send confirmation letter once money in escrow

The best practices for syndicators AFTER closing

  • Processes in place for consistent communication
  • Quarterly reports with property updates
  • Statements for individual investors

How Investor Deal Room automates investor relations

  • Investor management solution to update basic info
  • Raise capital through portal for each new offering
  • One-click branded welcome letters + statements

How Investor Deal Room addresses joint venture partners

  • Dashboard for money raiser to manage their investors
  • Cobranding on site (investor sees both logos)

Connect with Josiah

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Category:Commercial Real Estate -- posted at: 12:12am EST

As a financial planner, Jason Harris helped clients prepare for retirement. At the same time, he was building a real estate portfolio to replace his W-2 income. And last Thursday, he retired from financial planning (in his early 30’s!) to pursue investing full-time. What did that journey look like? What strategies did Jason and his wife, Carrie, use to generate passive income with multifamily?

Jason and Carrie started investing in real estate in 2010. Nine years later, they have a portfolio of 75-plus units and the couple is building a consulting business known as Creative Gains. With his background in financial planning, Jason offers clients a unique perspective on diversifying their portfolio with real estate. Jason and Carrie also run a successful property management company.

Today, Jason joins me to discuss his last day of work as a financial planner and explain how his friends and family reacted to his decision to pursue real estate full-time. Jason walks us through his journey to financial independence, from the FHA loan he used to buy his first fourplex to the creative strategies he and his wife leveraged to build their portfolio. Listen in for Jason’s unique insight on making real estate investing a part of your retirement plan and get his advice around making the leap from a W-2 job to full-time investor!

Key Takeaways

Jason’s last day of work as a financial planner

  • Surreal, scary and exciting
  • Confusion around what to do with time

What’s next for Jason

  • Sharing ideas with others (consulting, book)
  • Maintain property management company

How Jason’s friends and family reacted to his transition

  • Mixed reactions (e.g.: ‘too young to leave good career’)
  • Few colleagues understand assets outside securities

Jason’s journey to financial freedom

  • Started exploring real estate in 2010
  • Bought fourplex with FHA loan
  • Cashflow for down payment on next property

Why Jason and his wife chose not to expand their lifestyle

  • Dad laid off twice in teen years
  • ‘Sacrifice today for better tomorrow’

The fundamentals of FHA loans

  • Must own/occupy property to get financing
  • 4% down to live there, 28% otherwise

The creative strategies Jason used to build his portfolio

  • Wife got license, use commission as down payment
  • Hard money loan for value-add opportunity (BRRRR)
  • Partner on larger deals
  • Seller financing
  • Portfolio loans

Jason’s advice for transitioning from W-2 to full-time investor

  • Know your numbers (passive income net of all expenses)
  • Consider ability to qualify for loans without W-2 income

How Jason might have accelerated his timeline

  • Think bigger (stayed within 20-unit range)
  • Restricted from syndication by license as financial planner

Jason’s insights for passive investors

  • Diversify with ROTH IRA, 401(k) + real estate portfolio
  • Considerable tax benefits associated with multifamily

Connect with Jason

Creative Gains


Call (801) 362-0784


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